10am PART TWO

Okay, I think we’ve got everybody’s lists up there.  Some interesting topics & questions!

And we’ve got a few starts at defining the distinction between subject vs. concept keywords.

SO, now, let’s all do more of that.  I like richardpado’s use of Panofsky there–elaborate?  And lailahafiz’s distinction between what each one is doing.  More on that?

Everybody–please add to these definitions with EXAMPLES from your peers’ lists. What are your favorite concept terms from someone else’s project?

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22 thoughts on “10am PART TWO”

  1. I liked that msbenda29msbenda29 asked specifically why the author/photographer dealt with the image and specifically how that image connected was related to the author/photographer’s personal experience.

  2. My favorite concept terms were
    msbenda29: Historical context, cultural characteristics
    aboling756:Artistic purpose, Influences, atmosphere
    because they take into account what may have been happening at the time that could have influenced the work.

  3. I like liamdouglass2018’s use of ‘ethics of warfare” because the ethics derived from warfare can lead to many open interpretations about how war or the process had effects on the population.
    I like leahjrich’s “myths” concept because sometimes images may have a bigger meaning and convey a bigger notion compared to images that may just have one interpretation

  4. More definitions, please! What about terms like “myth” or “pictorial work”? = subject or concept?

    What else distinguishes the two?

    And: Is this distinction useful in your further searching for other academic articles? Can it help you define your question? Can it help you in database searching?

  5. I liked rihcardpados because I’m really curious as to what sort of propagandas were used in the Persian culuture. In regards to my favorite conceptual question, I liked number 2. What does certain images invoke within this culture? What were the specific images…what were they trying to prove in respect to the Persian culture.

  6. I really like both aboling756 concept term “Cultural Background” and msbenda29msbenda29 term “Historical context”. I like them because they put importance on the fact that there are multiple viewpoints and that personal characteristics shape the overall outcome

  7. I like leahjrich’s use of the term avant-garde and modernist because they give us insight on the style of the image which may also be helpful in learning about the time period and more about the background of the creator of the image.

  8. The concept key words I liked were
    aboling756: cultural background
    liamdouglass2018: American Identity
    msbenda29: As relating to notions of class, nationhood, heritage, and identity, Symbolism

    These concept key words help to create an image of the people represented. It helps to define them and give a background to the work. They help to analyze and connect the images.

  9. Examples:
    gilliansp – composition, dramatic devices, mass audience, control of information, social propaganda

    pisces44 – took advantage of those that did not know english, contrast

    msbenda29 – question, historical context, cultural characteristics, symbolism, objectivity

    dcfan10 – comparison

    leahjrich – stylization,

    aboling756 – cultural background, artistic purpose, influences, atmosphere

  10. We use the concept terms to really understand the message that the image is telling.
    “Shows the relationship between the 2 cultures in 1929”
    “Speculate hegemonic notions”
    “public statement of class sensibility”
    are good examples of peers concept terms.

  11. Personally, I liked gilliansp’s list of terms, because absolutely nothing was left to imagination, they were specific and extensive enough to cover basically every possibility I most cases.

  12. My favorite concept terms you all have found are those that do NOT have an obvious single meaning and must be defined by the scholar. E.g.
    American imagination
    hunt metaphor
    collective figuration
    speculat[ive?] hegemonic notions
    focused difference
    honorific ethnographic

    And also those that seem obvious, but probably have a very specialized meaning in that article:E.g.:
    identity
    fantasy
    trauma
    space
    place

  13. I think myth is far more interesting than pictorial work because pictorial work may have one meaning or is directed to some one in specific while myth is open to many interpretations and in the long run makes greater mystery/suspense of the proposal!

  14. Concept terms are TOOLS you can use. Think about them as portable notions, frameworks that you can lay ontop of new subject matter. They can help you ask new questions. You’ll use them and find more of them in your next library assignment for next Wednesday.

    Okay, nobody’s answered this yet: what tells you whether a certain term is being used as a subject vs. concept? e.g. “story-telling” or “modernist”? Aren’t those just factual? Can they be concepts?

    Answer that, then we’ll go!

  15. Subject key words are useful tools for to describe images and to further elaborate on (when, where, how)

    Concept key words are the techniques that can be used to understand the implication of the image and if intended to convey a message, and (why) that message is being implied.

    This distinction is useful in further because I feel like concept key words will help create your argument, where as subject key words help you develop and provide evidence to back up your argument. Also, key words are perfect for database searching, because very image has some key points, so key words will assist in finding particular images.

  16. Okay, think about that one as you do your next Lib Prep. (I’ll be revising that assignment a bit today, but you can take a look at it now. See you next Wednesday. Enjoy the Monday holiday!)

  17. I liked msbenda29msbenda29’s means of expression. What is the artist trying to say with their image and what aspects of their work reflect meaning?

  18. I think both of those terms can be concepts because they have a connotation associated with them which gives them deeper meaning. If we decide to use either of those terms, we can begin to infer things or ask more questions (that will lead to finding more answers). The terms represent a type of work and are almost categorical, in my opinion, so I think by using them we understand that images that fall into these terms must have certain qualities about them to do so.

  19. Terms like myth are used in my opinion when the image or subject matter become so iconic it goes beyond generational context and it known regardless of age. As for distinction it always helps your search when you can differ on what specific term you want to search. Sometimes just changing the terms you search can provide more to your research than pursuing information based on one concept

  20. In the case of story-telling, I think it can be more conceptual than factual, in that an image may not be explicitly telling a story. The story can mean something different for everyone so the scholar has to ask herself how the story is being told and what is either her own interpretation of the story being told or what are others’ interpretations. I’d say this is a conceptual term because it leads to many questions and the deeper analysis of the subject matter.

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